| What are the laws of the dragon ball universe? Some could apply to anime in general, but all MUST be absolutely followed in ALL instances involving Dragon Ball (GT being a possible exception, depending on the rule) 1:The Rule of Weapon Uselessness All weaponry is completely useless. Gun, swords, knives and missiles serve no more purpose than to prove how strong the villains/main characters are, which doesn't prove much. First Corollary: If you do have a weapon that might do some good, it will break. No matter what. Second Corollary:The only exceptions are if you are from the future and/or would easily kick their ass without it anyways. Just something I thought would be fun :) |
| Good thing you added the 2nd corollary :P When you mentioned swords i automaticly thought about Futur Trunks vs frieza :P Hmm let's see... 2: The rule of Ongrowing energy/transformations Can't really explain it properly but... the 1st fight is 90% of the time always a bust. You will most likely be beaten down and that is exactly what you need to realise your weaknesses and then improve properly. In other words a fight against someone weaker will not help you at all. A few examples: Goku vs jacky chan in DB Vegeta vs C18 in DBZ Not sure about GT as i haven't watched more than 20 eps but i'll say Goku vs Baby (he had to turn SSJ4). But technicaly Baby just stole other people's power... Urgh! GT is so tricky :P I'll take your offer about GT being possible exception :P Anyways, 1st fight loss, 2nd fight win ^^ Specially with Cell where he and the saiyans + Piccolo kept going round and round in the who-is-stronger-departement |
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| Hmm.. Very good topic XD My turn, erm.. 3: The sacrifice is not in vain At some point in battle, a lot of Dragon Ball heroes decied to sacrifice themselves for the sake of the others.. Examples: 1) Chiaotzu trying to kill Nappa 2) Goku vs Raditz, trying to save the world* 3) Piccolo trying to save Gohan x2 4) Goku vs Cell, trying to save the world again 5) Vegeta vs Fat Buu, trying to save the world Some of these, like Goku's, did work.. Goku helped killing Raditz, and saved everyone from Cell's explosion. But again - Raditz said it was all for nothing, cause Nappa and Vegeta are coming, and Cell even survived.. So, that looks like a pattern to me. |
| Indeed :D |
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| 4: The rule of being dying/resurected twice maximum 1st corollary: * Goku resurected with DBs after the fight with Raditz, then given life by Kaio in the Buu arc * Vegeta with DBs after fight with Frieza and then in the Buu arc * Piccolo with DBs after the saiyans arc and Buu arc * Gohan once in the Buu arc * Muten Roshi Piccolo Sr arc and Buu arc * Yamcha saiyans arc and Buu arc * Tenshinhan in saiyans arc and Buu arc * Goten and Trunks in Buu arc * All the other DB/DBZ characters once during the Buu arc I think i got everyone 2nd corollary or should i say only exceptions: * Krilin in Piccolo Sr arc, Frieza arc, Buu arc * Chaozu in Piccolo Sr arc, Saiyans arc, Buu arc Somehow appears as if you will die three times if your a small bald dude :P (having a single hair still makes you a baldy) I guess we can also say that all the Z-fighters dying in the Buu arc is also a law of DBZ :P (unless you're Goku as he was already dead) |
Kayde12Jun 9, 2010 7:52 AM
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Ecchi_Kooks said: Good thing you added the 2nd corollary :P When you mentioned swords i automatically thought about Futur Trunks vs frieza :P Hmm let's see... 2: The rule of Ongrowing energy/transformations Can't really explain it properly but... the 1st fight is 90% of the time always a bust. You will most likely be beaten down and that is exactly what you need to realize your weaknesses and then improve properly. In other words a fight against someone weaker will not help you at all. A few examples: Goku vs jacky chan in DB Vegeta vs C18 in DBZ Not sure about GT as i haven't watched more than 20 eps but I'll say Goku vs Baby (he had to turn SSJ4). But technically Baby just stole other people's power... Urgh! GT is so tricky :P I'll take your offer about GT being possible exception :P Anyways, 1st fight loss, 2nd fight win ^^ Specially with Cell where he and the saiyans + Piccolo kept going round and round in the who-is-stronger-department Good point! I never noticed that until you pointed this out. I am actually watching the Cell saga for the first time, (by the time I started watching the series, it was already into the Majin saga) and that definitely rings true for this saga. Vegeta's about to face off against Cell for the first time for me, looking forward to that :D But anyways, the fight with Jackie Chan could have gone either way. They were so evenly matched that Goku was literally a syllable away from winning. But I cant remember if they got the chance to fight again. Maybe I didn't see all of Dragonball after all. The problem with GT, and why I'm allowing it as an exception, is because it so often goes against accepted knowledge from the other series, such as the changes to the Saiyan origins story. So it's extremely hard to say one thing is always true in DBZ when it often gets revoked in GT. Plus, very few see it as canon anyways. Adding another rule(s) to this long post. 5.The Vegeta's Folly Rule Vegeta is always the cause of at least one transformation of the major villain of each arc, excluding Garlic Jr, which is filler anyways. 6. The Law of Villainy Transformation Power Every major villain has at least one other form than their base form. 3 is the magic number for most, the exception being Vegeta, who only has one other in his saga (but if you include later sagas, he has 3) |
| I'm pretty sure the rule number 5 only stands in the Cell arc. In the frieza arc it's actually Piccolo who made Frieza tunred into his 3rd form and then he turned into his 4th form just to make show off his power. Don't remember how he turned into his 2nd form but i'm pretty sure it wasn't because of Vegeta. And for the Buu arc... Vegeta only woke up Buu by fighting Goku but didn't have to do anything with all his transformations. For rule number 6 i think it's better to say ALL have minimum 3 transformations. Goku and Gotenks can go SSJ3. You can say that Piccolo and Vegeta have 3 FORMS but NOT transformations. Piccolo has his normal form and the 2 others he got by fusing with Nail and Kami Vegeta has his normal form, SSJ and SSJ2. Same for Gohan who has normal form, SSJ, SSJ2, Mystic. And you can ount the Gorilla form as a transformation for Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan. So i guess your rule #6 is true but some details or specifics can be added don't you think? |
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| Changing from one form to another is called transformation isn't it? ;p Or am I wrong? |
| Yes and no. Take Piccolo and Vegeta, they still remain the same, they still have the same body and face and such. But take Frieza and Cell that go through extreme changes and don't look like anything they used to be 5sec ago. Even better example: Piccolo & Buu comparaison They both "swallowed" other beings and extremely grew in energy but Piccolo remained Piccolo and Buu became 5 different Buus That's the point i was trying to make. There is energy-wise transformation (that i decided to call form) and body-wise transformation (that i decided to call transformation) Tricky i know ;P |
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| Well that's true for Piccolo but Vegeta is changing appearance ;p And I know what point you wanted to make but I like to point out that kind of things khiihihi xD |
| I actually knew you would make that comment :P At first i wanted to mention the color-changing-hair but didn't bother at the end :P |
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Ecchi_Kooks said: I'm pretty sure the rule number 5 only stands in the Cell arc. In the frieza arc it's actually Piccolo who made Frieza tunred into his 3rd form and then he turned into his 4th form just to make show off his power. Don't remember how he turned into his 2nd form but i'm pretty sure it wasn't because of Vegeta. And for the Buu arc... Vegeta only woke up Buu by fighting Goku but didn't have to do anything with all his transformations. Actually, Frieza went into his second form because Vegeta wanted to see it. And Super Buu became Kid Buu after Vegeta pulled Fat Buu out, but because he thought it would weaken him. |
| Ooh i see, still don't remember it fully but if you say so about Frieza. I remember the Buu thing but didn't count it as Goku was with him... but that doesn't change the fact that Vegeta was in it so i guess you're right. I admit my mistakes ^^' |
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| Alright, so far we have: Laws of the Dragon Ball Universe List said: 1: The Rule of Weapon Uselessness 2: The Rule of Ongrowing Energy/Transformations 3: The Rule of "Sacrifice was in vain" 4: The Rule of Dying/ Being Resurected Twice Maximum I'll add one more to the list. 5: The Rule of Making Friends by Beating Them Up We all know this one.. First in Dragon Ball, we have Oolong, Yamcha and Puar, Krillin, Ox King, Android 8, Tien and Chiaotzu; then Piccolo and Vegeta in Dragon Ball Z. These guys all became friends with Goku after they lost against him. This pattern seems to end during and after Frieza Saga. |
| I believe android 8 was good since the beginning and didn't get any kind of ass kicking whatsoever. And it was Gohan who turned Piccolo into a good guy. And i doubt Vegeta saw Goku as a friend after the freiza arc... i'd say it's towards the end of the Buu arc or when he got saved from Baby's control in GT Ox King was because Goku was grandpa Gohan's grandson and he got an earful from Roshi. We can say that it was Bulma that changed Yamcha... in a way. And puar followed. I only accpet Tien and Chaotzu and Oolong (who didn't recieve a beating, but extreme diarreh thanks to Bulma :P) |
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| Doesn't matter who made Piccolo good, he still became friend with Goku after being beaten XD I know about Android, but Goku did kick RR Army asses before that, and he made friends with Chiaotzu by beating Tien - you get the point. Rules are rules! Stop that! |
| Well we did become friends after i kicked your ass so i'll accpet that rule |
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| lmao |
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Ecchi_Kooks said: Well we did become friends after you kicked my ass so i'll accpet that rule Ok...  |
| The pic isn't showing :P Btw i just noticed that i wrote on a past post "being dying" :P How come noone corrected me ? :P |
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| If everyone cared and nobody cried.. :P They're probably scared. :( |
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