| I have been watching anime for quite some time and of course Shounen anime were my gateway drug into anime. I enjoyed things like Naruto and Bleach. Watched every episode of Bleach and I would consider it the last show I truly binged(i.e. watching 100+ eps in a very short period of time). That was a looong time ago and I have moved on to other things. However, I have several friends who like Shounen series and I feel like a prick because I try to get into it, but I see very little entertainment value. I can enjoy the aesthetic of shows like Black Clover, Soul Eater(very old), however I don't really understand anymore what I am supposed to be taking away from these anime on an episode-by-episode sense. The fight scenes rarely entertain me. I have to watch almost 50+ episodes before it gets good, and the themes sometimes seem really shallow. I want to have an appreciation for this type of anime but I just can't bring myself to do it p.s. The last show that I liked that had shounen elements was Claymore. That was really good, hope a season 2 gets adapted. |
fastghosthunterJun 4, 2022 5:11 PM
fastghosthunter said: we gettin' old lol. shounen is always about trying your best or overcoming obstacles and the frinedship thing. behneat it its always some good vs evil thing going on. (episode by episode, the overcoming obstacles and friendship part i guess)I have been watching anime for quite some time and of course Shounen anime were my gateway drug into anime. I enjoyed things like Naruto and Bleach. Watched every episode of Bleach and I would consider it the last show I truly binged(i.e. watching 100+ eps in a very short period of time). That was a looong time ago and I have moved on to other things. However, I have several friends who like Shounen series and I feel like a prick because I try to get into it, but I see very little entertainment value. I can enjoy the aesthetic of shows like Black Clover, Soul Eater(very old), however I don't really understand anymore what I am supposed to be taking away from these anime on an episode-by-episode sense. The fight scenes rarely entertain me. I have to watch almost 50+ episodes before it gets good, and the themes sometimes seem really shallow. I want to have an appreciation for this type of anime but I just can't bring myself to do it p.s. The last show that I liked that had shounen elements was Claymore. That was really good, hope a season 2 gets adapted. 10 years since bleach stopped now, (ive seen it, naruto, hxh, one piece, the same pretty much) but its coming again. i wanted to start fairy tail, cause why not i guess, but i havent checked out new shounen in forever either. maybe ive grown out of it, maybe not, but i wanna etleast check out bleach again when it comes back. if you see it and it not your jive anymore, maybe it isnt, or you just need to take a break. i know the feeling of trying to force it, its very, very hard to watch or say play a video game, it just dosent work. (one guy i read started naruto when he was 30, another guy started bleach when he was in his 50's, ive read, so maybe you just need to mix up genres once in a while, (when i cathed up to a shounen thats what i always did, with whatever anime i found, ecchi, slice of life, romance, fantasy, you name it, it spiced things up a little so anime didnt feel stale for me, guess it was a wtf, what is this feeling cause shounen was pretty much the most animne i'd seen at that point) if you can do that with your friends i guess or solo) i dunno |
evangelionfanJun 4, 2022 4:49 PM
| Then just don't watch it if you don't like it? |
| This is just me view on it, I think you would be better of not watching it. I think you would be far better of trying watching world masterpiece theatre Anime. For me, Shonen is fun, but i think it's not needed to enjoy this kind of demographics. As it exist so much other things to watch and especially as you haven't watch so much Anime yet. I'm rather sure you can have a great journey ahead of you, even if you dont watch Shonen. This is just my view on the subject. And I could never help you with this subject either. As I can enjoy a lot of things, as long as it's fun, even if I'm a guy and are into big breast onee-sans i can still watch BL and enjoy it. |
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| I think what it comes down to is largely that you're mainly talking about the longrunning series. I suggest trying something shorter, maybe you'll find more enjoyment there. And if not, that's okay too; not everyone likes the same things. |
  "Truth is always a cruel thing." |
| Its called Shounen for a reason , its target demographic doesn't go older than 17 years old hell even 16 yr olds would find it uninteresting Shounen = teenage boy |
| Shonen might just not be for you, that fine. |
| Sounds like you just simply outgrew it, which is perfectly understandable. Shounen primary targets teenagers and so naturally, a lot of shounen anime is gonna cater to that sort of audience. If you aren’t within that demographic, it’s only natural it wouldn’t appeal to you much, and you’d probably be better off watching seinen anime instead. Not to say older folks aren’t still able to enjoy shounen regardless, but it doesn’t sound like you’re one of those people, really. |
| Poor you, not liking a big portion of anime/manga just because they are Shonen... oh wait a sec, you're talking about Nekketsu series. Then maybe you should not force yourself to see those series, you can watch whatever you like, anime is to entertain yourself and if a certain type of series isn't doing it then you can always go and see another type. |
| you don't have to force yourself to like shounen anime. try watching futabu instead. https://myanimelist.net/anime/21521/Futa-bu |
| Shonen anime is not limited to battle shonen there's plenty shonen anime out there that don't revolve around "boring" fights and 50+ episodes. |
  ๐ฎ๐๐๐๐๐พ๐๐๐, ๐๐๐ ๐ธ๐ถ๐'๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐ป๐๐๐๐ถ๐๐น ๐๐พ๐๐ฝ๐๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐พ๐๐ ๐๐ฝ๐ ๐น๐๐๐ ๐ท๐๐ฝ๐พ๐๐น ๐๐๐. - ๐
๐๐พ ๐ฆ๐พ๐๐พ๐๐ถ๐๐ถ   |
| Why do you want to like it? Just watch what you enjoy, a lot of my friends like shounen but I never felt compelled to watch it because of that. Even then there's always one or another that I like, like FMAB which I thought was great. Watch it for the story, characters, fun factor etc, not genre or demographic. |
samsince04 said: Shonen anime is not limited to battle shonen there's plenty shonen anime out there that don't revolve around "boring" fights and 50+ episodes. Can you recommend me some then. Please and thank you! |
Ionliosite2 said: Poor you, not liking a big portion of anime/manga just because they are Shonen... oh wait a sec, you're talking about Nekketsu series. Then maybe you should not force yourself to see those series, you can watch whatever you like, anime is to entertain yourself and if a certain type of series isn't doing it then you can always go and see another type. Sorry that I don't know some obscure anime classification. Are you a pause and select viewer lol Anyways I do acknowledge that shounen is a vast genre that doesn't just include battle anime. Hikaru no Go and Death note both ran in weekly Shounen Jump for example. So I don't know why so many people are on this post acting like I said battle shounen is all shounen |
| I tend not to like them either. It's the glacial pace that really messes with me. |
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fastghosthunter said: There's a lot more than I count. Let's start then.samsince04 said: Shonen anime is not limited to battle shonen there's plenty shonen anime out there that don't revolve around "boring" fights and 50+ episodes. Can you recommend me some then. Please and thank you! Gto, Bakuman, Your lie in April, Slam dunk, Ace of the diamond, Takagi San, Samurai Champloo, Nichijou, Beck, etc. You can find more if you click on the Shounen link on any Shounen anime and just keep scrolling until you see a non battle anime. |
| ๐ฎ๐๐๐๐๐พ๐๐๐, ๐๐๐ ๐ธ๐ถ๐'๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐ป๐๐๐๐ถ๐๐น ๐๐พ๐๐ฝ๐๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐พ๐๐ ๐๐ฝ๐ ๐น๐๐๐ ๐ท๐๐ฝ๐พ๐๐น ๐๐๐. - ๐
๐๐พ ๐ฆ๐พ๐๐พ๐๐ถ๐๐ถ |
fastghosthunter said: Ionliosite2 said: Poor you, not liking a big portion of anime/manga just because they are Shonen... oh wait a sec, you're talking about Nekketsu series. Then maybe you should not force yourself to see those series, you can watch whatever you like, anime is to entertain yourself and if a certain type of series isn't doing it then you can always go and see another type. Sorry that I don't know some obscure anime classification. Are you a pause and select viewer lol Anyways I do acknowledge that shounen is a vast genre that doesn't just include battle anime. Hikaru no Go and Death note both ran in weekly Shounen Jump for example. So I don't know why so many people are on this post acting like I said battle shounen is all shounen Most people don't know the term yeah, I'm not sure what a pause and select viewer is so I can't really tell XD. Well, maybe they act (including me) that way maybe because you just said Shonen in the title and not the common "battle Shonen", but I know what you mean, I was just messing around a little. |
| ? Like specifically battle shonen? Otherwise I mean Bakuman is in your favourites. You gave Devilman Crybaby, Death Note and Dragon Ball positive ratings so you are hardly incapable of enjoying them more so than any other demographic. |
| They call it shounen for a reason, it's targeted towards a certain age range that people grow out of |
| Hmm.. you don't like Shounen? Might I suggest Yaoi for you then? |
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| Nobody is forcing you to like battle shounen and you can find Slice of life shounen which you might enjoy. It is not necessary that shounen should be only battle shounen. |
| Why are you forcing yourself to enjoy things you don't? Lol. |
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| Stop it. Just get over it. Go watch YouTube or something. |
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| Maybe it just age problem. I used to be like Sounen anime when I was teenager. But after reach adult age. I'm have less enjoy or even dislike watched shounen anime anymore. So I guess this is normal problem for someone who have adult age like me. |
  What Does Pot of Greed do?  |
| Why are you ashamed of not liking shounen? Theres nothing to be ashamed about |
| Well, you are not the only one... I know how you feel. |
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| i think a lot of the appeal of shounen comes from being a fun, actiony show with lots of characters you know and it becomes like ur comfy place when u get home from work or whatever. the name is totally a misnomer i think these shows have the most cross age appeal of anything. the long fight scenes though this is the reason i dont enjoy them generally either |
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| The solution is simple, avoid the "shounen" tag, and look for "seinen" tag. Example: https://myanimelist.net/anime/6758/Tatakau_Shisho__The_Book_of_Bantorra |
| Been there, done that. I really dont care about my peers' taste. This is why i dont just focus on battle shounen when watching anime. There are so much tags/themes out there. Im still on the same phase as you are but atleast i can adjust & you should too. |
" Kindness can sometimes lead you to trouble. "  |
| I pity you but there's nothing you can do, if you don't like it you don't like it. Also I died a little inside when Soul Eater was called "Very Old". Jesus fucking Christ, how old am I if that show is 'very old'? Young people depress me. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| You've barely watched any shonen. Try Hunter x Hunter (2011) for at least 26 episodes and see if you feel the same. |
Inovox said: You've barely watched any shonen. Try Hunter x Hunter (2011) for at least 26 episodes and see if you feel the same. Yuyu hakusho Black Clover Soul Eater Naruto Bleach Dragon Ball Z MARS (boy thats a throwback) MHA (dropped) Demon Slayer (dropped) How have I not watched a lot? |
JaniSIr said: The solution is simple, avoid the "shounen" tag, and look for "seinen" tag. Example: https://myanimelist.net/anime/6758/Tatakau_Shisho__The_Book_of_Bantorra But seinen is even worse than shounen. Some of us don't like stuff with sex scenes and extreme violence, and seinen often has the stuff that people like me don't want to see. Granted, there are some shounen with these things, but it's not nearly as common as it is in seinen works. |
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_-_Sally_-_ said: JaniSIr said: The solution is simple, avoid the "shounen" tag, and look for "seinen" tag. Example: https://myanimelist.net/anime/6758/Tatakau_Shisho__The_Book_of_Bantorra But seinen is even worse than shounen. Some of us don't like stuff with sex scenes and extreme violence, and seinen often has the stuff that people like me don't want to see. Granted, there are some shounen with these things, but it's not nearly as common as it is in seinen works. You must be young. Very few anime have actual sex scenes. Maybe sexual content but rarely full on sex |
Exactly that's what I wanted to say here, I mean whenever I see people talking about I don't like Shonen or they are for kids then just blame the entire demographic while there are clearly so many amazing shows in this demographic like Aria,beastars and many more if you explore this demographic more rather than just nitpicking about popular battle shonen not like every battle Shonen are bad some of them are even good like hxh,gintama,d gray man(manga) or even pandora hearts(manga) but the problem comes that people just don't explore the demographic or a genre and starts hating that genre as whole I saw even people saying that mecha show are bad or they don't like just and only Code geass,Gurren laggan are good and other aren't my type, I mean you just have to explore the stuff rather than complaining here... My main point is that rather complaining or making these type of threads try exploring this demographic more instead of picking popular titles,may be you find something for you but yeah there is also that "age difference thing" which is something can't be help but you can give a shot atleast |
Lavi_kunJun 5, 2022 7:41 AM
fastghosthunter said: _-_Sally_-_ said: But seinen is even worse than shounen. Some of us don't like stuff with sex scenes and extreme violence, and seinen often has the stuff that people like me don't want to see. Granted, there are some shounen with these things, but it's not nearly as common as it is in seinen works. You must be young. Very few anime have actual sex scenes. Maybe sexual content but rarely full on sex Young? I'm 34, and I've been watching anime since 1992. Perhaps you haven't seen many movies or OVAs, because plenty those have disturbing things in them. |
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fastghosthunter said: Inovox said: You've barely watched any shonen. Try Hunter x Hunter (2011) for at least 26 episodes and see if you feel the same. Yuyu hakusho Black Clover Soul Eater Naruto Bleach Dragon Ball Z MARS (boy thats a throwback) MHA (dropped) Demon Slayer (dropped) How have I not watched a lot? You haven't completed most of those, and the ones you have, you watched when you were a kid. I know it's a tall order but to get something out of shonen you have to watch multiple arcs to get into the development of the character. If you drop them before even finishing the arc you won't get attached to the character or see any of the good fights. I also suggested Hunter x Hunter (2011) because it takes shonen tropes and does something fresh with them. |
| I agree, though you are referring to battle Shounen which is very mickey mouse, they feel like they are on the same script aside from the different animation styles and subject matter. |
Inovox said: fastghosthunter said: Yuyu hakusho Black Clover Soul Eater Naruto Bleach Dragon Ball Z MARS (boy thats a throwback) MHA (dropped) Demon Slayer (dropped) How have I not watched a lot? You haven't completed most of those, and the ones you have, you watched when you were a kid. I know it's a tall order but to get something out of shonen you have to watch multiple arcs to get into the development of the character. If you drop them before even finishing the arc you won't get attached to the character or see any of the good fights. I also suggested Hunter x Hunter (2011) because it takes shonen tropes and does something fresh with them. I have run across a lot of people like you, with all due respect, who tell me my enjoyment of something is going to magically change after watching X amount of episodes and almost never is that the case. The reason that I didn't complete them is because I wasn't enjoying it at all. Have you thought about that? Also if something only gets good after a huge timesink. Is it really good? |
_-_Sally_-_ said: fastghosthunter said: You must be young. Very few anime have actual sex scenes. Maybe sexual content but rarely full on sex Young? I'm 34, and I've been watching anime since 1992. Perhaps you haven't seen many movies or OVAs, because plenty those have disturbing things in them. I have never heard a grown adult say they won't watch something with sex scenes even though I have heard some people say they don't like the extreme violence stuff. So I just assumed you were young. Sorry |
fastghosthunter said: Inovox said: You haven't completed most of those, and the ones you have, you watched when you were a kid. I know it's a tall order but to get something out of shonen you have to watch multiple arcs to get into the development of the character. If you drop them before even finishing the arc you won't get attached to the character or see any of the good fights. I also suggested Hunter x Hunter (2011) because it takes shonen tropes and does something fresh with them. I have run across a lot of people like you, with all due respect, who tell me my enjoyment of something is going to magically change after watching X amount of episodes and almost never is that the case. The reason that I didn't complete them is because I wasn't enjoying it at all. Have you thought about that? Also if something only gets good after a huge timesink. Is it really good? Okay, think about what you're saying. If I walked out of a two hour movie after fifteen minutes, how much would you respect my opinion on the film? If I read 3 chapters of a 700 page book and then stopped it, how confident can I be on my opinion on that book? If you don't like shonen, you don't like it. That's fine. But you have to at least finish a season/arc of a shonen to even get anything out of it. If you've watched hundreds of episodes of Naruto and Bleach at one point, surely you can watch 13-26 episodes of Hunter x Hunter (2011) first arc, Demon Slayer Season 1, or MHA Season 1? And I wouldn't even be suggesting it to you that much if you hadn't loved it so much in the past. You might have just forgotten why you loved it and what's so great about it. |
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