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Aug 9, 8:31 PM
#1
We all already know that Death Note should have ended after L died, because to be honest I never liked the final arc with Near and everything, also the direction the story took towards the end, that is, you would be satisfied if by chance the Anime had concluded showing in the last episode how Light Yagami became the god of the new world exactly as he wished and consequently would bring an almost perfect world peace, thus governing this new world, would this be a more satisfying ending to Death Note? So in your opinion, what do you think would be the ideal conclusion to the end of Death Note? |
Aug 9, 9:27 PM
#2
Okay no, i disagree with the whole "we know that death note should've ended after L dying", i dont know what the issue with so many of these goddamn people in the fandom that think the show got garbage after Ls death. The reason? L not being there triggers L fans, as an L fan, no i didnt feel the show got worse after. If it ended there, light woudlve won. It really seems a fanbase issue, the second half getting attacked by both L and Light fans (L is dead, hence theyre bored) (Light lost after Ls death, it shouldn't have continued for them). I dont know how much of the fanbase thinks this about the second half, because i never felt the direction, story, cat & mouse chase and music got brought down. My conclusion is how it actually ended is perfect, atleast in the anime. Im not a fan of the manga ending, some changes were well done. Lights death really made me feel for him. Death Note didnt leave many things open ended, which is how the show was most of the time. |
Aug 9, 9:32 PM
#3
The story did decline towards the end but the only end of Light was going end in his death and the creators did their best |
Aug 9, 9:39 PM
#4
vinnywizanime said: Okay no, i disagree with the whole "we know that death note should've ended after L dying", i dont know what the issue with so many of these goddamn people in the fandom that think the show got garbage after Ls death. The reason? L not being there triggers L fans, as an L fan, no i didnt feel the show got worse after. If it ended there, light woudlve won. It really seems a fanbase issue, the second half getting attacked by both L and Light fans (L is dead, hence theyre bored) (Light lost after Ls death, it shouldn't have continued for them). I dont know how much of the fanbase thinks this about the second half, because i never felt the direction, story, cat & mouse chase and music got brought down. My conclusion is how it actually ended is perfect, atleast in the anime. Im not a fan of the manga ending, some changes were well done. Lights death really made me feel for him. Death Note didnt leave many things open ended, which is how the show was most of the time. Finally a sane L fan |
Aug 9, 9:40 PM
#5
If Death Note had ended after L died, then what do you think would've become of Kira? Who would put an end to his madness? The alternate ending of perfect world peace is impossible to achieve because that's something humanity has never truly experienced. Would a peaceful world ruled by a god-complex tyrant with no crime really be any better than the actual world? Moreover Kira's method of ending crime by committing crime is ironic. He had this crazy version of justice and enforced it on others and killed anyone he saw has a threat. While he may have started with good intention, the power corrupted him and he was was far beyond redemption by that point. If Near didn't put an end to him, I'm sure he would've ended up as a tyrant. Someone had to put an end to his dangerous whims. That's why I'm content with the ending we got. I'd only complain about the pacing, it felt like it dragged on for too long. |
Aug 9, 9:47 PM
#6
I personally don't think Death Note should have ended after L's death. I never was a fan of Light's vision of justice since his actions contrasted with it and he ended up becoming the very people that he was hunting down and eliminating. I'm honestly satisfied with the way it ended. Although that's maybe because I'm not a huge fan of L as I was when I was younger. Not like I have anything against him of course. But I liked him moreso for how peculiar he was. |
Aug 9, 10:05 PM
#7
I will not write as much as some of the other posters here but will leave my take on the ending of the show. I believe the final episode had a fair ending with the killing of Light, but I do not believe they achieved that goal the correct or proper way, as the N arc was severely disappointing. I see some people in the thread discarding it easily and stating how it was not that significant of a quality drop off, but quite frankly Near replacing the notebook in the amount of time he had made absolutely zero sense and is something that people should hold the show accountable for. The ending with the murder of Light was perfect, the N arc was not. To answer the question it had the perfect ending, kind of. |
Aug 9, 10:10 PM
#8
vinnywizanime said: Okay no, i disagree with the whole "we know that death note should've ended after L dying", i dont know what the issue with so many of these goddamn people in the fandom that think the show got garbage after Ls death. The reason? L not being there triggers L fans, as an L fan, no i didnt feel the show got worse after. If it ended there, light woudlve won. It really seems a fanbase issue, the second half getting attacked by both L and Light fans (L is dead, hence theyre bored) (Light lost after Ls death, it shouldn't have continued for them). I dont know how much of the fanbase thinks this about the second half, because i never felt the direction, story, cat & mouse chase and music got brought down. My conclusion is how it actually ended is perfect, atleast in the anime. Im not a fan of the manga ending, some changes were well done. Lights death really made me feel for him. Death Note didnt leave many things open ended, which is how the show was most of the time. Finally someone else who doesn’t hate the second part. Idk what it is with everyone because I thought the second part was just as good as the first, the way it shows Light’s fall off and it slowly builds up to his defeat showing how he’s gotten cocky with what he’s doing is so well done that it only makes sense he’s lose to Near even if L is obviously smarter. I would say I like the manga ending better but I still think both are fantastic and I hate the “Death Note should’ve ended after L died” consensus |
Aug 9, 11:19 PM
#9
I’m not against the fact that the story continued after L’s death even though I would’ve preferred that it didn’t drag on, but my issue with the rest of death note is that when they brought in near (I think that’s his name) and the other one, they continued it in the same method L used. I think if they had different methods and different ways of trying to stop light, then the story wouldn’t have ended on a sour note (in my opinion at least). |
Aug 9, 11:29 PM
#10
The series ending with Light winning in the end would be completely unsatisfactory. Showing how pathetic he truly is, how badly he lost himself, and getting his just deserts in the end is the best way to end it. I refuse to think it should’ve ended with L’s death. The manga handles the Near arc much better from what I remember. Everything overall was fleshed out much more, the anime skips quite a bit. It still doesn’t match up to Light and L’s dynamic, but it isn’t nearly as bad as it’s made out to be in the anime imo. The endings themselves are different as well, I personally prefer the manga ending more. Both are really good and serve their purpose well, the anime being more beautiful and “humanizing”, the manga being more brutal and pathetic. Ryuk pretty much toying with him, just to reveal he was writing Light’s name down. Reminding him that he’d be the one to kill Light when he couldn’t provide anymore entertainment. Light begs and pleads for his life in humiliating fashion. He doesn’t take time to reflect on his life and decisions, he just tries to find any possible way to win and worm his way out of this. Up to the very end he couldn’t drop the God complex, taking one last grasp at control. He doesn’t get any ceremonious or beautiful send off, it all just ends like all the people he killed. All that to say, both conclusions we got are much better than just letting him win. He isn’t a God. He’s an egotistic child who got his hands on something he never should have. ![]() |
Aug 10, 1:34 AM
#11
vinnywizanime said: Okay no, i disagree with the whole "we know that death note should've ended after L dying", i dont know what the issue with so many of these goddamn people in the fandom that think the show got garbage after Ls death. The reason? L not being there triggers L fans, as an L fan, no i didnt feel the show got worse after. If it ended there, light woudlve won. It really seems a fanbase issue, the second half getting attacked by both L and Light fans (L is dead, hence theyre bored) (Light lost after Ls death, it shouldn't have continued for them). I dont know how much of the fanbase thinks this about the second half, because i never felt the direction, story, cat & mouse chase and music got brought down. My conclusion is how it actually ended is perfect, atleast in the anime. Im not a fan of the manga ending, some changes were well done. Lights death really made me feel for him. Death Note didnt leave many things open ended, which is how the show was most of the time. The original ending had way too many plotholes. It was inconsistent with the rest of the series. That is usually why people criticize the ending too |
Aug 10, 2:05 AM
#12
Yea after L dies it’s hot garbage. Not like I could of wrote a better ending but the ending we got was terrible |
Aug 10, 3:46 AM
#13
It should have ended after L's death and Light should have won at the end. The original ending that we got is pure garbage |
Aug 10, 3:50 AM
#14
MusashiKarlsefni said: The series ending with Light winning in the end would be completely unsatisfactory. Showing how pathetic he truly is, how badly he lost himself, and getting his just deserts in the end is the best way to end it. I refuse to think it should’ve ended with L’s death. The manga handles the Near arc much better from what I remember. Everything overall was fleshed out much more, the anime skips quite a bit. It still doesn’t match up to Light and L’s dynamic, but it isn’t nearly as bad as it’s made out to be in the anime imo. The endings themselves are different as well, I personally prefer the manga ending more. Both are really good and serve their purpose well, the anime being more beautiful and “humanizing”, the manga being more brutal and pathetic. Ryuk pretty much toying with him, just to reveal he was writing Light’s name down. Reminding him that he’d be the one to kill Light when he couldn’t provide anymore entertainment. Light begs and pleads for his life in humiliating fashion. He doesn’t take time to reflect on his life and decisions, he just tries to find any possible way to win and worm his way out of this. Up to the very end he couldn’t drop the God complex, taking one last grasp at control. He doesn’t get any ceremonious or beautiful send off, it all just ends like all the people he killed. All that to say, both conclusions we got are much better than just letting him win. He isn’t a God. He’s an egotistic child who got his hands on something he never should have. ![]() No, Light should have won. That would have been the perfect ending and 100% satisfing. The ending we got is just pure garbage and stupid. It ruined completely the whole story |
Aug 10, 4:15 AM
#15
LimeMakotoBell said: MusashiKarlsefni said: The series ending with Light winning in the end would be completely unsatisfactory. Showing how pathetic he truly is, how badly he lost himself, and getting his just deserts in the end is the best way to end it. I refuse to think it should’ve ended with L’s death. The manga handles the Near arc much better from what I remember. Everything overall was fleshed out much more, the anime skips quite a bit. It still doesn’t match up to Light and L’s dynamic, but it isn’t nearly as bad as it’s made out to be in the anime imo. The endings themselves are different as well, I personally prefer the manga ending more. Both are really good and serve their purpose well, the anime being more beautiful and “humanizing”, the manga being more brutal and pathetic. Ryuk pretty much toying with him, just to reveal he was writing Light’s name down. Reminding him that he’d be the one to kill Light when he couldn’t provide anymore entertainment. Light begs and pleads for his life in humiliating fashion. He doesn’t take time to reflect on his life and decisions, he just tries to find any possible way to win and worm his way out of this. Up to the very end he couldn’t drop the God complex, taking one last grasp at control. He doesn’t get any ceremonious or beautiful send off, it all just ends like all the people he killed. All that to say, both conclusions we got are much better than just letting him win. He isn’t a God. He’s an egotistic child who got his hands on something he never should have. ![]() No, Light should have won. That would have been the perfect ending and 100% satisfing. The ending we got is just pure garbage and stupid. It ruined completely the whole story We’ll just have to fundamentally disagree then. Cuz to me, Light winning feels more like edgy teenager fanfiction than a genuine conclusion to the story. |
Aug 10, 5:53 AM
#16
I'm kinda neutral on this topic but I'd say it definitely could have been better if Kira won |
Aug 10, 6:08 AM
#17
ended at episode 25 |
Aug 10, 6:47 AM
#18
I like the last half of the series. Sure it isn’t as good the first half but the aftermath of how Light further plunges down into becoming more evil and selfish, the subplot with Mello taking extreme lengths to reveal Kira and even new characters like Mikami were all incredibly engaging to watch. Yeah I do agree Near does fall kinda flat considering he doesn’t really feel like his own original or unique character and more of a replacement of L. However, Light losing, throwing a temper tantrum, being pathetic and even begging in the manga is perfectly in character especially how the Death Note corrupted him to become the way he was even with his morality. I feel like Light winning is not just unsatisfying but also feel like the message of falling from grace and how the influence of his morality and the Death Note would be harder to convey. I love the ending, in fact it’s probably one of my favourite endings ever that I feel like people blindly hate on because their favourite character died. The last half has its problems and some pretty ridiculous stuff such as Giovanni writing all the names in the book in one day or Near’s deduction that Mikami was the second Kira but for what it’s worth, I would still say the character arcs within the second half are enjoyable and well done enough for me to like it. I think it’s overhated personally. |
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Aug 10, 7:22 AM
#20
In my view, the original ending of Death Note provides a perfect conclusion to the story, with the death of Light Yagami serving as a fitting close to his character arc. |
Aug 10, 8:10 AM
#21
ReMightyRon said: We all already know that Death Note should have ended after L died, because to be honest I never liked the final arc with Near and everything, also the direction the story took towards the end, that is, you would be satisfied if by chance the Anime had concluded showing in the last episode how Light Yagami became the god of the new world exactly as he wished and consequently would bring an almost perfect world peace, thus governing this new world, would this be a more satisfying ending to Death Note? So in your opinion, what do you think would be the ideal conclusion to the end of Death Note? Thanks for posting this question! I think that whole the show did feel like it ended momentum wise after L dies (I seriously blacked out so much for the rest that when I showed someone the series years later I actually felt like I was watching the last half for the first time and didn't remember any of it, which does say something about the content quality I think?). However, I think the show continuing to have someone fight another day makes sense so we get the last episode (which is super good) BUT, I think I just did not enjoy Near as a character at all and that was my issue. I wish it had been a better written character (no idea what or who, just not that). And I think that that is a big part of people's issues with it more than folks being unreasonable die hard L fans. I think we should give people more credit. It was a really deep loss because it truly felt like no one but L should have earned catching Light. It was truly tragic. But I also think that's what may have been what made the last episode as compelling and good as it ended up being. Without that void, and Light still getting caught even though his ultimate rival perished by his own hand, I don't think the freak out would have been as satisfying. I think there is a world in which the show had evil just win. That is a plausible and valid way to end the series. But, the last episode of watching Lights mask crumble is worth it...plus rounding back to what Ryuk said about writing Lights name, it would have been a huge loss to not have the ending exist. Those are my thoughts 👉👈^-^ |
Aug 10, 8:10 AM
#22
Sorry it posted twice! |
Aug 10, 9:28 AM
#23
Thejazlord78 said: vinnywizanime said: Okay no, i disagree with the whole "we know that death note should've ended after L dying", i dont know what the issue with so many of these goddamn people in the fandom that think the show got garbage after Ls death. The reason? L not being there triggers L fans, as an L fan, no i didnt feel the show got worse after. If it ended there, light woudlve won. It really seems a fanbase issue, the second half getting attacked by both L and Light fans (L is dead, hence theyre bored) (Light lost after Ls death, it shouldn't have continued for them). I dont know how much of the fanbase thinks this about the second half, because i never felt the direction, story, cat & mouse chase and music got brought down. My conclusion is how it actually ended is perfect, atleast in the anime. Im not a fan of the manga ending, some changes were well done. Lights death really made me feel for him. Death Note didnt leave many things open ended, which is how the show was most of the time. The original ending had way too many plotholes. It was inconsistent with the rest of the series. That is usually why people criticize the ending too what are the plot holes |
Aug 10, 9:32 AM
#24
The reason I personally dont like the last 3rd of deathnote is because near is not an interesting character in my opinion. The hook of the show for me was the Mental Rivalry between L and Light, so killing of L and Replacing him with a carbon copy character just kinda irks me. If near had his own character traits and personality other than L 2.0, I might have liked him better. Because I still enjoy a lot of the story beats and scenarios in the second half, I just despised near. Melo was okay, not my favourite, but the fact he was not just L again made him somewhat interesting to watch as I didn't know what he would do next. |
Aug 10, 10:00 AM
#25
Alex2Face said: Thejazlord78 said: vinnywizanime said: Okay no, i disagree with the whole "we know that death note should've ended after L dying", i dont know what the issue with so many of these goddamn people in the fandom that think the show got garbage after Ls death. The reason? L not being there triggers L fans, as an L fan, no i didnt feel the show got worse after. If it ended there, light woudlve won. It really seems a fanbase issue, the second half getting attacked by both L and Light fans (L is dead, hence theyre bored) (Light lost after Ls death, it shouldn't have continued for them). I dont know how much of the fanbase thinks this about the second half, because i never felt the direction, story, cat & mouse chase and music got brought down. My conclusion is how it actually ended is perfect, atleast in the anime. Im not a fan of the manga ending, some changes were well done. Lights death really made me feel for him. Death Note didnt leave many things open ended, which is how the show was most of the time. The original ending had way too many plotholes. It was inconsistent with the rest of the series. That is usually why people criticize the ending too what are the plot holes For one the whole concept of Teru Mikami is that he thinks almost exactly like Light making him a perfect back up Kira, so he should've either tested the note he had before the big climax or at least had a hidden scrap of paper like Light has in his watch. Doing the equivalent of showing up with a gun loaded with blanks and no extra ammo is out of character. Anime should've ended post L with Light going off the deep end killing too many people and Ryuuk writing Lights name in his Note (there's a cool YouTube video with this concept that is my head cannon ending for the series) |
Aug 10, 10:10 AM
#26
Reply to Alex2Face
Thejazlord78 said:
The original ending had way too many plotholes. It was inconsistent with the rest of the series. That is usually why people criticize the ending too
vinnywizanime said:
Okay no, i disagree with the whole "we know that death note should've ended after L dying", i dont know what the issue with so many of these goddamn people in the fandom that think the show got garbage after Ls death. The reason? L not being there triggers L fans, as an L fan, no i didnt feel the show got worse after. If it ended there, light woudlve won. It really seems a fanbase issue, the second half getting attacked by both L and Light fans (L is dead, hence theyre bored) (Light lost after Ls death, it shouldn't have continued for them). I dont know how much of the fanbase thinks this about the second half, because i never felt the direction, story, cat & mouse chase and music got brought down.
My conclusion is how it actually ended is perfect, atleast in the anime. Im not a fan of the manga ending, some changes were well done. Lights death really made me feel for him. Death Note didnt leave many things open ended, which is how the show was most of the time.
Okay no, i disagree with the whole "we know that death note should've ended after L dying", i dont know what the issue with so many of these goddamn people in the fandom that think the show got garbage after Ls death. The reason? L not being there triggers L fans, as an L fan, no i didnt feel the show got worse after. If it ended there, light woudlve won. It really seems a fanbase issue, the second half getting attacked by both L and Light fans (L is dead, hence theyre bored) (Light lost after Ls death, it shouldn't have continued for them). I dont know how much of the fanbase thinks this about the second half, because i never felt the direction, story, cat & mouse chase and music got brought down.
My conclusion is how it actually ended is perfect, atleast in the anime. Im not a fan of the manga ending, some changes were well done. Lights death really made me feel for him. Death Note didnt leave many things open ended, which is how the show was most of the time.
The original ending had way too many plotholes. It was inconsistent with the rest of the series. That is usually why people criticize the ending too
what are the plot holes
@Alex2Face So are you telling me that nears crew was able to copy down the entire death note down to microscopic level all in one night? It feels lackluster compared to everything else said. It was basically impossible for light to win |
Aug 10, 10:10 AM
#27
Reply to Alex2Face
Thejazlord78 said:
The original ending had way too many plotholes. It was inconsistent with the rest of the series. That is usually why people criticize the ending too
vinnywizanime said:
Okay no, i disagree with the whole "we know that death note should've ended after L dying", i dont know what the issue with so many of these goddamn people in the fandom that think the show got garbage after Ls death. The reason? L not being there triggers L fans, as an L fan, no i didnt feel the show got worse after. If it ended there, light woudlve won. It really seems a fanbase issue, the second half getting attacked by both L and Light fans (L is dead, hence theyre bored) (Light lost after Ls death, it shouldn't have continued for them). I dont know how much of the fanbase thinks this about the second half, because i never felt the direction, story, cat & mouse chase and music got brought down.
My conclusion is how it actually ended is perfect, atleast in the anime. Im not a fan of the manga ending, some changes were well done. Lights death really made me feel for him. Death Note didnt leave many things open ended, which is how the show was most of the time.
Okay no, i disagree with the whole "we know that death note should've ended after L dying", i dont know what the issue with so many of these goddamn people in the fandom that think the show got garbage after Ls death. The reason? L not being there triggers L fans, as an L fan, no i didnt feel the show got worse after. If it ended there, light woudlve won. It really seems a fanbase issue, the second half getting attacked by both L and Light fans (L is dead, hence theyre bored) (Light lost after Ls death, it shouldn't have continued for them). I dont know how much of the fanbase thinks this about the second half, because i never felt the direction, story, cat & mouse chase and music got brought down.
My conclusion is how it actually ended is perfect, atleast in the anime. Im not a fan of the manga ending, some changes were well done. Lights death really made me feel for him. Death Note didnt leave many things open ended, which is how the show was most of the time.
The original ending had way too many plotholes. It was inconsistent with the rest of the series. That is usually why people criticize the ending too
what are the plot holes
@Alex2Face So are you telling me that nears crew was able to copy down the entire death note down to microscopic level all in one night? It feels lackluster compared to everything else said. It was basically impossible for light to win |
Aug 10, 3:24 PM
#28
Thejazlord78 said: @Alex2Face So are you telling me that nears crew was able to copy down the entire death note down to microscopic level all in one night? It feels lackluster compared to everything else said. It was basically impossible for light to win It's stated in one of the last chapters they had one day to copy it all down and what people often forget is that they only had to copy down the names Mikami wrote down, not the ones Takada did when she was in charge of writing down the names. Given that they not only had a professional forget but also an additional man to help him, the workload is believable. |
Aug 10, 3:32 PM
#29
Grndragonite said: Alex2Face said: Thejazlord78 said: vinnywizanime said: Okay no, i disagree with the whole "we know that death note should've ended after L dying", i dont know what the issue with so many of these goddamn people in the fandom that think the show got garbage after Ls death. The reason? L not being there triggers L fans, as an L fan, no i didnt feel the show got worse after. If it ended there, light woudlve won. It really seems a fanbase issue, the second half getting attacked by both L and Light fans (L is dead, hence theyre bored) (Light lost after Ls death, it shouldn't have continued for them). I dont know how much of the fanbase thinks this about the second half, because i never felt the direction, story, cat & mouse chase and music got brought down. My conclusion is how it actually ended is perfect, atleast in the anime. Im not a fan of the manga ending, some changes were well done. Lights death really made me feel for him. Death Note didnt leave many things open ended, which is how the show was most of the time. The original ending had way too many plotholes. It was inconsistent with the rest of the series. That is usually why people criticize the ending too what are the plot holes For one the whole concept of Teru Mikami is that he thinks almost exactly like Light making him a perfect back up Kira, so he should've either tested the note he had before the big climax or at least had a hidden scrap of paper like Light has in his watch. Doing the equivalent of showing up with a gun loaded with blanks and no extra ammo is out of character. Anime should've ended post L with Light going off the deep end killing too many people and Ryuuk writing Lights name in his Note (there's a cool YouTube video with this concept that is my head cannon ending for the series) iirc that's only what Light thought initially, the longer time Mikami spent taking matters into his own hands, the more he strayed from Lights ideals as he pointed out. As for testing the notebook, it was mentioned he was being tailed all morning until right before the meet up occurred, so he was constrained. There's also Matsudas theory which lines up pretty well, though I personally don't have a stance on it. Idk if some of these finer details were mentioned in the anime ( as I haven't seen it in a while) or if they were only mentioned in the manga |
Aug 11, 9:27 AM
#30
The original manga ending was excellent, the anime just mucked it up. How are you a Lain fan & this media challenged? |
cranky because your taste sucks, aren't you? |
Aug 11, 8:19 PM
#31
Reply to assignedgengar
The original manga ending was excellent, the anime just mucked it up. How are you a Lain fan & this media challenged?
@assignedgengar I don't know what you're talking about, I just like works that risk being different from the conventional and most popular, but I also understand that it may seem strange to do this with such anime in my favorite, I also prefer the ending of Death Note in the manga, excluding only Light's final moments, but make no mistake, I like both works Lain and Death almost equally, that's why I've watched both several times and every year I watch them again. |
Aug 11, 8:19 PM
#32
Reply to GamerQueer808
ReMightyRon said:
We all already know that Death Note should have ended after L died, because to be honest I never liked the final arc with Near and everything, also the direction the story took towards the end, that is, you would be satisfied if by chance the Anime had concluded showing in the last episode how Light Yagami became the god of the new world exactly as he wished and consequently would bring an almost perfect world peace, thus governing this new world, would this be a more satisfying ending to Death Note?
So in your opinion, what do you think would be the ideal conclusion to the end of Death Note?
We all already know that Death Note should have ended after L died, because to be honest I never liked the final arc with Near and everything, also the direction the story took towards the end, that is, you would be satisfied if by chance the Anime had concluded showing in the last episode how Light Yagami became the god of the new world exactly as he wished and consequently would bring an almost perfect world peace, thus governing this new world, would this be a more satisfying ending to Death Note?
So in your opinion, what do you think would be the ideal conclusion to the end of Death Note?
Thanks for posting this question!
I think that whole the show did feel like it ended momentum wise after L dies (I seriously blacked out so much for the rest that when I showed someone the series years later I actually felt like I was watching the last half for the first time and didn't remember any of it, which does say something about the content quality I think?).
However, I think the show continuing to have someone fight another day makes sense so we get the last episode (which is super good)
BUT, I think I just did not enjoy Near as a character at all and that was my issue. I wish it had been a better written character (no idea what or who, just not that). And I think that that is a big part of people's issues with it more than folks being unreasonable die hard L fans. I think we should give people more credit. It was a really deep loss because it truly felt like no one but L should have earned catching Light. It was truly tragic. But I also think that's what may have been what made the last episode as compelling and good as it ended up being. Without that void, and Light still getting caught even though his ultimate rival perished by his own hand, I don't think the freak out would have been as satisfying.
I think there is a world in which the show had evil just win. That is a plausible and valid way to end the series. But, the last episode of watching Lights mask crumble is worth it...plus rounding back to what Ryuk said about writing Lights name, it would have been a huge loss to not have the ending exist.
Those are my thoughts 👉👈^-^
@GamerQueer808 Your opinion was the closest to what I think, there were also some others above, but I totally agree with this! |
Aug 11, 9:48 PM
#33
ReMightyRon said: @assignedgengar I don't know what you're talking about, I just like works that risk being different from the conventional and most popular, but I also understand that it may seem strange to do this with such anime in my favorite, I also prefer the ending of Death Note in the manga, excluding only Light's final moments, but make no mistake, I like both works Lain and Death almost equally, that's why I've watched both several times and every year I watch them again. I don't see how Light's final moments in the manga didn't represent a perfect foil to you or how things ending with him "winning" after killing L would be a more satisfying, daring, or interesting conclusion to you, but alright. |
cranky because your taste sucks, aren't you? |
Aug 12, 1:36 AM
#34
Reply to Alex2Face
Thejazlord78 said:
@Alex2Face So are you telling me that nears crew was able to copy down the entire death note down to microscopic level all in one night? It feels lackluster compared to everything else said. It was basically impossible for light to win
@Alex2Face So are you telling me that nears crew was able to copy down the entire death note down to microscopic level all in one night? It feels lackluster compared to everything else said. It was basically impossible for light to win
It's stated in one of the last chapters they had one day to copy it all down and what people often forget is that they only had to copy down the names Mikami wrote down, not the ones Takada did when she was in charge of writing down the names. Given that they not only had a professional forget but also an additional man to help him, the workload is believable.
@Alex2Face Did u forget the hundreds of names light wrote? Even if you are able to write them all down in the exact same handwriting, there is no way u can make the exact tears and folds of the original death note in one night such that even a microscope can never tell the difference. This was all done by one man mind you. Other than this theres also near pulling out x kira bs outta nowhere |
Aug 12, 4:03 AM
#35
Thejazlord78 said: @Alex2Face Did u forget the hundreds of names light wrote? Even if you are able to write them all down in the exact same handwriting, there is no way u can make the exact tears and folds of the original death note in one night such that even a microscope can never tell the difference. This was all done by one man mind you. Other than this theres also near pulling out x kira bs outta nowhere they didn't have to copy down the names Light wrote, Misa got rid of all evidence before relinquishing ownership and passing it on to Mikami and the notebook she had was Gelus' meaning it wasn't the one Light used. As for Mikami not noticing it's stated that they followed him until right before the very meet up, he was constrained and under pressure and was unable to do a thorough inspection otherwise the whole plan would be foiled. There's also Matsudas theory if you believe in that. With the X Kira stuff the anime took out a lot of Nears reasoning which made it seem like he magically got the answer but there's actually a very reasonable (and tedious) explanation as to how he figured out who X Kira was there are thorough explanations online |
Aug 13, 1:26 AM
#36
My ideal ending was what happened in the manga, which the anime adaptation ruined by changing things around and making Light more sympathetic at the end and giving him a more peaceful death. I have no problem with Light dying because it's what he deserved, it's just how it was portrayed in the anime that pissed me off. And I'm sorry for being blunt, but the only people who wanted Light to win are probably the same folks who stan horrible people like Trump and Elon Musk. |
WematanyeAug 13, 1:30 AM
Aug 13, 2:55 PM
#37
Reply to Wematanye
My ideal ending was what happened in the manga, which the anime adaptation ruined by changing things around and making Light more sympathetic at the end and giving him a more peaceful death. I have no problem with Light dying because it's what he deserved, it's just how it was portrayed in the anime that pissed me off.
And I'm sorry for being blunt, but the only people who wanted Light to win are probably the same folks who stan horrible people like Trump and Elon Musk.
And I'm sorry for being blunt, but the only people who wanted Light to win are probably the same folks who stan horrible people like Trump and Elon Musk.
@Early_Morning No, I understand. I can support LIGHT YAGAMI, a fictional character, but I would never do the same with those two you mentioned. |
Aug 16, 12:42 AM
#38
I think my favourite ending, and potentially, the ending that we should have gotten in the show, is the one depicted in Death Note: The Musical, in which both Light AND L die together. It’s a lot more satisfying to me that neither one of them gets to “win”, since they were both corrupted by the Death Note, in one way or another (Light by being the one to pick it up, and L by being the one to try and stop him, and bending his morals to do so). |
Aug 16, 12:54 AM
#39
The only bad thing about the second part is how Light lost, that didn't make any sense at all. But other than that, I liked it quite a lot and I don't think it could have ended in a better way tbh. |
Aug 19, 12:21 AM
#40
vinnywizanime said: Okay no, i disagree with the whole "we know that death note should've ended after L dying", i dont know what the issue with so many of these goddamn people in the fandom that think the show got garbage after Ls death. The reason? L not being there triggers L fans, as an L fan, no i didnt feel the show got worse after. If it ended there, light woudlve won. It really seems a fanbase issue, the second half getting attacked by both L and Light fans (L is dead, hence theyre bored) (Light lost after Ls death, it shouldn't have continued for them). I dont know how much of the fanbase thinks this about the second half, because i never felt the direction, story, cat & mouse chase and music got brought down. My conclusion is how it actually ended is perfect, atleast in the anime. Im not a fan of the manga ending, some changes were well done. Lights death really made me feel for him. Death Note didnt leave many things open ended, which is how the show was most of the time. I mean yeah you are right but I think after L's death and with the entry of mello and near , the show became plain like there was no excitement while watching it i mean I am not complaining that it was boring or something but still the battle between light and L was more exciting than the whole mello and near part |
Sep 29, 6:48 PM
#41
I think the story could have fairly easily been shorter, and kept L alive (because how he dies is silly). After whatever story beats need covering just have him pull off the ultimate defeat of Kira since the new guys are functionally just slightly worse Ls, a stage adaptation that's literally just Light/L/Misa/Ryuk (and people whose names get written down with minor screen time and some offscreen cops for L to talk to I guess) could hit all the highlights with minimal tweaks really. Not to say what we got was bad, but extended to the point of being stretched thin in various "Kira escapes corner he was written into via remembering that new gadget Doctor Agasa I mean Misa gave him offscreen" sorts of ways a few times, until his enemies Uno reverse offscreen gadget him into dying in said corner. I also think Light and the other Kiras just being dead from losing kind of hurts the general premise of the show being that murder is not true justice, kind of proved his point that some executions are correct, though not doing it that way would need a whole other story I guess. Anyway, Kira getting some wins and ultimately losing it all due to being the bad guy with good but increasingly twisted intentions is the only way the story works even slightly. Kira can't win as long as humanity has free will because he's trying to invent a world only the child of a cop could believe in. That is, the only criminals to go after are those already caught, and disagreeing with him also counts as a crime, and all criminals must die. No interest in who's tracking down yet unidentified serial killers/rapists/whatever or rehab or anything despite him being killer killer the killer of killers but also killing cops doing their jobs and stuff. A story that said that was right without any criticism would be pure cringe, canon Death Note is a bit cringe but also a fairly coherent story. |
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