Durarara!! Episode 10 Discussion

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After 10 episodes, finally they managed to make me want more. If it took them 10 episodes long to build this turning point I will say it worth it.

I don't really think Mikado has anything deep in Dollars but I rather think he just found a exploit in Dollars system or rather that was the purpose of Dollars.

"A Legend is but a tale of a beautiful lie."

Mar 14, 2010 11:04 AM

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Wow, it's the Awakening, I hope the pace finally picks up.

Lol at Izaya jumping on that guy. xD

Mar 14, 2010 11:15 AM

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Siva said:

I don't really think Mikado has anything deep in Dollars but I rather think he just found a exploit in Dollars system or rather that was the purpose of Dollars.

You're wrong.

Mar 14, 2010 11:24 AM

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RiverFlow108 said:
Awesome episode is awesome

Can't wait til next week!!!

I wish I could read the novels too though, anyone wanna help me out? lol

Go search in Baka-Tsuki http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Main_Page

This episode blew me away with all those misunderstandings coming together(but all of us knew it already xD) I love this!

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Mar 14, 2010 12:29 PM

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garfield15 said:

Siva said:

I don't really think Mikado has anything deep in Dollars but I rather think he just found a exploit in Dollars system or rather that was the purpose of Dollars.

You're wrong.

Oh soooo wrong lol ;)

Also baka-tsuki doesn't have much translated. I got my hands on the actual novels though and I've read a number of excerpts in the last couple of hours. The story is crazy good, I can't wait to see what else makes it in the anime from the first 3 novels.
As long as the end of the first novel makes it in I'll be soooo psyched

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I am not really sure how do you guys know that I am so wrong, well maybe you are reading manga/novel. But tbh I never feel bad or regretful for saying out my opinion. But I feel regret here for seeing people posting a comment like this:

Oh soooo wrong lol ;)

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Mar 14, 2010 1:23 PM

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Agreed. If you've read the novel/manga, it's a shitty thing to go "Oh you're wrong, giggle, giggle." Part of the enjoyment of the show is trying to figure out where everything is going.

Anyways...I loved this episode. The show goes up to a '9' now. The only thing that kind of befuddles me is how people have jumped to saying that Mikado created the dollars. I realized he was on the dollars website when Dotachin's episode came around, but maybe I forgot something that was said earlier. It also makes me wonder about Izaya's relationship with Mikado and what that dynamic means now that both recognize who the other is.

garfield15 said:

-I didn't realize it until this episode.
I didn't think he was my favorite when he almost suicided that girl
I didn't think he was my favorite when he get smacked by a garbage can
I didn't think he was my favorite when we saw his knife profieciency and how he screwed over Shizuo
Heck, I didn't think he was my favorite when he was jumping on that guy and giggling like a child.

No, it was when he was following Mikado and making little "vrrm-vrrom" sounds like he was actually riding a bike in which I realize, "Dang it, I adore Izaya. He is my favorite character."

This. I knew I liked him (and didn't get the fangirling), but now I know I love him.

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I think Ohmori/Brains Base have found the right formula to the perfect Baccano-styled anime (which was poorly executed and too messy to be called a great show) now.

That's kind of a pointless remark, considering both animes are created by the same studios. Anyplex & Brains Base.

It's not pointless. Baccano was severely flawed precisely because it's structure lacked reason and unnecessarily muddied up the story. The exact opposite is true here. The show unravels intelligently and doesn't need to be bookended with a loli and a grandpa talking about what information was/wasn't necessary and how the show should be looked at.

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Mar 14, 2010 1:59 PM

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Siva said:
I am not really sure how do you guys know that I am so wrong, well maybe you are reading manga/novel. But tbh I never feel bad or regretful for saying out my opinion. But I feel regret here for seeing people posting a comment like this:

Oh soooo wrong lol ;)

lol that did not feel right.

Other than that, the amount of spoilers in this thread has not yet escalated to the point of umineko threads (far from it)...But I do hope people don't try (too much) spoiler talk....

And hints that Mikado is in fact, deeply related to the Dollars, is Izaya's reaction to the last scene. Clearly, he is no regular Dollars member and what he was doing on the Dollars site looked more like that of an operator or moderator. It would be no surprise if he was one of the leaders (or THE leader/creator) of the organization....

Now I'm convinced everyone, including Kida (kinda obvious) and Anri (not obvious yet), will have crazy revelations about their true identities...

bla bla bla

The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.

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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?

Mar 14, 2010 2:16 PM

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noteDhero said:
Agreed. If you've read the novel/manga, it's a shitty thing to go "Oh you're wrong, giggle, giggle." Part of the enjoyment of the show is trying to figure out where everything is going.

I didn't mean it to be spiteful. I just thought that the ending presentation made it more than a little obvious that there was more than him being a simple member. I didn't even read the novels/manga. I had gotten spoiled anyway because of some people! :P.

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lol that did not feel right.

Mar 14, 2010 3:05 PM

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Siva said:

I don't really think Mikado has anything deep in Dollars but I rather think he just found a exploit in Dollars system or rather that was the purpose of Dollars.

What I mean there was that he wasn't anything special more than just a member of Dollars a couple weeks back. It is still better than some people that jump to conclusion and saying he is the creator of Dollars which isn't making any sense. If my memory served me right, wasn't Dollars was created before Mikado came to Ikebukuro? And did you even account that you need to know people phone number to be able to invite them to join Dollars? Does that even make any sense that Mikado should be the Creator? On top of that if he is really the Creator, why does he have to Dollars in one of his card?

P.S. TBH I have read manga and watch anime of the same series but I never doing shit like that because I like to respect people comment.

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Mar 14, 2010 3:26 PM

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There is something I wonder. Until the end of this episode, Mikado was like knowing absolutely nothing about dollars whatsoever, even the best actors can't pretend like that. It was more like sudden realisation that he found out that he is a leader of dollars. It was time when he was thinking of 'yagiri pharmacy'.

So, I think Yagiri Pharmacy either modified his memory or whatever. It makes no sense if Mikado was just acting all the time until now.

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Mar 14, 2010 3:29 PM

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noteDhero said:
Agreed. If you've read the novel/manga, it's a shitty thing to go "Oh you're wrong, giggle, giggle." Part of the enjoyment of the show is trying to figure out where everything is going.

I didn't mean it to be spiteful. I just thought that the ending presentation made it more than a little obvious that there was more than him being a simple member. I didn't even read the novels/manga. I had gotten spoiled anyway because of some people! :P.

In all fairness, it wasn't just you. I have a bigger problem with the emphasis and wink, wink, nudge, nudge thing that happened, but wakka is right, it's not as bad as Umineko, but it still bothers me.

As for what happened at the end of the episode, I agree that it hints at something larger...but I honestly don't see how Mikado was aware of what he was doing until the mouse clicking moment, so I can't understand how he is the leader like a lot of people are eager to believe. Then again, the show has made a point of saying that no one knows who the leader is, so we're back to square one--the only difference being that Mikado knows what's going on now. On top of that though, I also wonder how much more Kida knows.

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Mar 14, 2010 3:32 PM

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noteDhero said:
Anyways...I loved this episode. The show goes up to a '9' now.

garfield15 said:

-I didn't realize it until this episode.
I didn't think he was my favorite when he almost suicided that girl
I didn't think he was my favorite when he get smacked by a garbage can
I didn't think he was my favorite when we saw his knife profieciency and how he screwed over Shizuo
Heck, I didn't think he was my favorite when he was jumping on that guy and giggling like a child.

No, it was when he was following Mikado and making little "vrrm-vrrom" sounds like he was actually riding a bike in which I realize, "Dang it, I adore Izaya. He is my favorite character."

This. I knew I liked him (and didn't get the fangirling), but now I know I love him.

Same here. I was wondering why he had such an unusually large fanbase, but now he definitely deserves it.

And yeah, I bumped it up to a 9 as of this episode too.

Mar 14, 2010 4:03 PM

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ringoo4 said:
There is something I wonder. Until the end of this episode, Mikado was like knowing absolutely nothing about dollars whatsoever, even the best actors can't pretend like that. It was more like sudden realisation that he found out that he is a leader of dollars. It was time when he was thinking of 'yagiri pharmacy'.

So, I think Yagiri Pharmacy either modified his memory or whatever. It makes no sense if Mikado was just acting all the time until now.

I don't think so.

If I talk too much that would be a huge spoiler so I will PM you if you want :)

Mar 14, 2010 4:30 PM

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omfg, i want the next episode so BAD!

Mar 14, 2010 4:33 PM

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ringoo4 said:
There is something I wonder. Until the end of this episode, Mikado was like knowing absolutely nothing about dollars whatsoever, even the best actors can't pretend like that. It was more like sudden realisation that he found out that he is a leader of dollars. It was time when he was thinking of 'yagiri pharmacy'.

So, I think Yagiri Pharmacy either modified his memory or whatever. It makes no sense if Mikado was just acting all the time until now.

I don't think so.

If I talk too much that would be a huge spoiler so I will PM you if you want :)

I'm too afraid to read that spoiler; I've already got spoiled a little bit about Kida. I'm sure that spoiler is something big.... @_@

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Mar 14, 2010 4:46 PM

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lol that did not feel right.

That made so much my day! :D Rofl!

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Mar 14, 2010 4:57 PM

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noteDhero said:
Agreed. If you've read the novel/manga, it's a shitty thing to go "Oh you're wrong, giggle, giggle." Part of the enjoyment of the show is trying to figure out where everything is going.

echo that. my hunch is that the geniuses who were so proud of figuring it out had already been spoiled....

Mar 14, 2010 5:22 PM

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ilikeyouevenmore said:

noteDhero said:
Agreed. If you've read the novel/manga, it's a shitty thing to go "Oh you're wrong, giggle, giggle." Part of the enjoyment of the show is trying to figure out where everything is going.

echo that. my hunch is that the geniuses who were so proud of figuring it out had already been spoiled....

I was able to figure out the blatantly obvious and i didn't even read the manga/lightnovel.
Maybe you guys are just a little slow?

Mar 14, 2010 5:23 PM

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nice episode so mikado is the leader of dollars just a hunch ^^

Mar 14, 2010 6:48 PM

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Good episode. Wanted more Mikado getting the crap beat out of him by pursuers. However, since he no longer is a completely bland character i will accept him "powering-up" to a prominent dollars member.
*Password for the dollars website: baccano. Put any more references please? (^.^)
I got the Railgun reference, but while the other character they said sounded familiar i couldn't place my tongue on it...

Mar 14, 2010 7:55 PM

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I knew it, well since the beginning we saw him chatting on that website. I love how he was able to connect the dot so quickly. This anime is worth being collected!

BTW I think his best friend was part of the blue colors.

Mar 14, 2010 8:39 PM

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It's official. I love Izaya. It's crazy how he can be so childish and so cruel at the same time.

The bit about Anri being a stalker was LULZY. XD

I had not realized that chat window was the Dollars chat room. So Celty is part of Dollars too? Interesting. I love how Izaya was all like YAY I KNEW IT!

Overall awesome episode. Needs more Kida background. There's definitely something with him and the color gangs. I wonder if he suspects Mikado of being a part of dollars? It's hard to tell what he's seriously thinking.

I can't wait to see what the next episode reveals.

Mar 14, 2010 10:01 PM

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just rewatched... <3 <3 <3 this show, and i wanted to look for more clues...

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I had not realized that chat window was the Dollars chat room. So Celty is part of Dollars too? Interesting. I love how Izaya was all like YAY I KNEW IT!

they made a great effort to lead us astray about the chatroom. the chatroom was always full of rumors about the Dollars

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Overall awesome episode. Needs more Kida background. There's definitely something with him and the color gangs. I wonder if he suspects Mikado of being a part of dollars? It's hard to tell what he's seriously thinking.

i want to know too.... it really seems like he was fishing. and the way he put his name down as being in the dollars, maybe he was asking for an invite?

mel said:

I was able to figure out the blatantly obvious and i didn't even read the manga/lightnovel.
Maybe you guys are just a little slow?

no, the story has been full of deliberate misdirection....
btw, i said i had a hunch. a hunch is a just a guess, which means i have no proof... just like anyone who has "figured out" mikado - there is no proof, just some clues.
...unless, of course, you've accidentally come across some spoilage - and there is a lot of it out there! i had read a little bit of the manga, and until i rewatched it was hard for me to remember which scenes i had read, and which ones were in the anime. even though i haven't read ahead, i know there are some interesting details that have been left out of the show.... i really don't think there is enough proof in the show by itself to definatively say what mikado's role in dollars is.

edit: added spoiler tag

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Mar 14, 2010 10:36 PM

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I thought Mikado wanted to keep his Dollars involvement a secret? Why would he go online with 2 people staring at him like that? lol.

Mar 14, 2010 10:51 PM

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I thought Mikado wanted to keep his Dollars involvement a secret? Why would he go online with 2 people staring at him like that? lol.

yes, he has been playing dumb this whole time! maybe he's finally ready to make some connections ....(lost&found ep.8)

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mel said:

ilikeyouevenmore said:

noteDhero said:
Agreed. If you've read the novel/manga, it's a shitty thing to go "Oh you're wrong, giggle, giggle." Part of the enjoyment of the show is trying to figure out where everything is going.

echo that. my hunch is that the geniuses who were so proud of figuring it out had already been spoiled....

I was able to figure out the blatantly obvious and i didn't even read the manga/lightnovel.
Maybe you guys are just a little slow?

QFT

Meh, I thought that it was common knowledge before the episode even aired. Shit isn't tagged as spoiler on the wiki page so I just assumed.
Oh well, care lots. Besides, after spending some time with novels today, you guys have waaaay more shit to look forward too so don't get your panties in a bunch.

Mar 15, 2010 1:05 AM

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Ahem, finally got to watch it now yay xD

To short comment this episode:

- Mikado's badassness is finally present. And I'm not surprise about him being a dollar member.
- Izaya is being too awesome once again when ever he shows up.
- I loved all the weird expression each characters made in this episode like the shocked expression from Kyohei and Mikado's not-believe-the-lie Celty made.
- Kida's present is hilarious as always <3 I just hope he keeps up with it ~

I can't wait for the next episode with Shizuo back into throwing stuff again. Funny, I suddenly missed Shizuo in episode as I see Izaya being too awesome and wished some random stuff to hit him in that moment xD

Mar 15, 2010 1:37 AM

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mel said:
i want to know too.... it really seems like he was fishing. and the way he put his name down as being in the dollars, maybe he was asking for an invite?

I had always assumed Kida was involved with Dollars himself in some fashion. At least at first. As you mentioned there was a lot of deliberate misdirection going on. I almost can't imagine Mikado not sending him an invite. Unless he suspected Kida would figure out who the leader is. Ahh, so many new questions come up for every one answered.

I'm guessing that's why [kida] looked so wary when they were talking to that guy in the rooftop.

Was he wary? I don't recall that. Wasn't he the one who instigated the meeting? Mikado seemed way more wary than Kida in that scene (and it's no wonder). Maybe I need to rewatch the scene.

I definitely believe he was in one of the three gangs. Didn't he say something to Mikado along the lines of himself being one of the dangerous guys in Ikebukuro in one of the first episodes? (or was that the manga? I get them confused). Now at first one would assume it's another of his jokes, but I got the feeling he was being serious. Kida seems way too clever to me. His foolish behavior is over the top and obviously an act. He's really very sharp.

What I'm really curious about is how Mikado chose the Dollars members. I can't imagine it being completely random, since everything in this series is connected in some fashion. I mean every one of the Dollars members we've met so far had some kind of prior connection with the underground or was well suited to such work. Except the new guy, but we don't know his story yet.

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thesilentsenshi said:

[Was he wary? I don't recall that. Wasn't he the one who instigated the meeting? Mikado seemed way more wary than Kida in that scene (and it's no wonder). Maybe I need to rewatch the scene.

I definitely believe he was in one of the three gangs. Didn't he say something to Mikado along the lines of himself being one of the dangerous guys in Ikebukuro in one of the first episodes? (or was that the manga? I get them confused). Now at first one would assume it's another of his jokes, but I got the feeling he was being serious. Kida seems way too clever to me. His foolish behavior is over the top and obviously an act. He's really very sharp.

What I'm really curious about is how Mikado chose the Dollars members. I can't imagine it being completely random, since everything in this series is connected in some fashion. I mean every one of the Dollars members we've met so far had some kind of prior connection with the underground or was well suited to such work. Except the new guy, but we don't know his story yet.

1. He look at least like he spaced out when the roof top guy talked about those gang. It definitely tells a lot he had something to do with it. Especially since episode 1 when he stated he doesn't know much yet he talk about it so flawless it seems suspecious in a way xD

2. It's from the manga, surely that joke made me laugh.

3. I also agree about the unrandom choice of invitation. For me, it sound almost something Izaya would've have done since he is the informant and does know who's best to join and stuff. But to be Mikado.. well... he surely can't jugded by the cover of a book from his look =3

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mel said:

I was able to figure out the blatantly obvious and i didn't even read the manga/lightnovel.
Maybe you guys are just a little slow?

no, the story has been full of deliberate misdirection....
btw, i said i had a hunch. a hunch is a just a guess, which means i have no proof... just like anyone who has "figured out" mikado - there is no proof, just some clues.
...unless, of course, you've accidentally come across some spoilage - and there is a lot of it out there! i had read a little bit of the manga, and until i rewatched it was hard for me to remember which scenes i had read, and which ones were in the anime. even though i haven't read ahead, i know there are some interesting details that have been left out of the show.... i really don't think there is enough proof in the show by itself to definatively say what mikado's role in dollars is.

You know what, we, people who knew nothing about spoiler, were try to say otherwise with REASON but they came at use say "OH sooooo wrong, LOL". Because? They had gotten spoiled?

On top of that someone just came in and say "I was able to figure out the blatantly obvious and i didn't even read the manga/lightnovel. Maybe you guys are just a little slow?" without even read your comment first?
I mean does it takes a genius to figure out something so obvious? No, but just because it is so obvious that doesn't mean it is true, right?

No wonder, some people like, Forever never want to post a comment in a thread like this. Because most people here only want to read something like:

XXXXX said:
LOL!!! Izaya is fucking awesome!!!

XXXXX said:
OMG Can't wait for the next episode to see this

And the best one so far I have seen:

XXXXX said:
I don't really get what is going on but anyway AWESOME episode.

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Mar 15, 2010 4:48 AM

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thesilentsenshi said:

msdoodles said:
I'm guessing that's why [kida] looked so wary when they were talking to that guy in the rooftop.

Was he wary? I don't recall that. Wasn't he the one who instigated the meeting? Mikado seemed way more wary than Kida in that scene (and it's no wonder). Maybe I need to rewatch the scene.

Yeah, he was the one who wanted to meet up with him but when the Yellow Scarves/Blue Squares topic came into light, his mannerisms changed.

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Siva said:

On top of that someone just came in and say "I was able to figure out the blatantly obvious and i didn't even read the manga/lightnovel. Maybe you guys are just a little slow?" without even read your comment first?
I mean does it takes a genius to figure out something so obvious? No, but just because it is so obvious that doesn't mean it is true, right?

lol, thanks for acknowledging my post. all i really wanted to say to these people was:

if you have to figure something out ==> it is not blatently obvious

Mimiko said:

thesilentsenshi said:

What I'm really curious about is how Mikado chose the Dollars members. I can't imagine it being completely random, since everything in this series is connected in some fashion. I mean every one of the Dollars members we've met so far had some kind of prior connection with the underground or was well suited to such work. Except the new guy, but we don't know his story yet.

3. I also agree about the unrandom choice of invitation. For me, it sound almost something Izaya would've have done since he is the informant and does know who's best to join and stuff. But to be Mikado.. well... he surely can't jugded by the cover of a book from his look =3

it is especially interesting considering that dollars was formed six months before mikado even moved to ikebukuro.... if he was up in people's business from far away, he's beginning to look like a bit like a stalker himself. just a little bit.

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Was the password Mikado typing "Baccano"?

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Was the password Mikado typing "Baccano"?

Okay for like the fifth time.

Yes, yes it was.

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garfield15 said:

KingDeadKira said:
Was the password Mikado typing "Baccano"?

Okay for like the fifth time.

Yes, yes it was.

LOL well sorry, i just saw the episode a few minutes ago.

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Whaaaaat? What what what what what what what what. x____x
Mikado's already in the Dollars? All the cards are in his hands? Is he the leader?! Ahhh.

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